- Managing The Coaching Process [2015-2016] [SEM 1]
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- DISCUSSION BOARD
- Thought Question 5
DISCUSSION BOARD
Thought Question 5
How important do you think a knowledge and understanding of sports systems are to sports coaches? Are they relevant to your particular coaching context?
Definately,
if a coach does not understand the system how can they opperate inside it. If the system lays down the rules for the sport operating outside the rules devalues the efforts of others. A coach operating outside the system may put their athlete at a disadvantage if the system then penalises them for not following the rules.
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Personally - not really. I can't say I've ever looked at the UK sport system when it comes to the work I do. The beauty I have working within an independant school is that I have full and complete choice over the curriculum I develop and deLiver. Therefore it has little relevance to the coaching no I undertake in that specific context and is something I've never even considered until now. It's been interesting to delve more into this and note how the countries I would consider as achievers structure their systems. I will probably have a more well rounded view after completing the research of the task with Mark. I notice this has happened a lot during this course - things I never considered or knew about before hand are now things I actively use on a daily basis.
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Chris - what about the context of hockey - both in Scotland and UK, in school and clubs? Is the system seamless? Does it work?
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In hockey - the system is archaic and appalling. Scottish Hockey make so many errors of judgement and are so set in their ways that it becomes a constant battle between schools and clubs with the governing body. In all honesty, schools tend to do their own thing and minimize interaction with the governing body as much as possible. We have a debrief meeting every year and the same points and issues are raised each year and shut down by the SHU. Nobody works with their "system" because they don't really have one...the performance manager is one of the longest serving in UK sport yet has not even instilled a pathway for development. I'm lucky enough to be an assistant coach to the national under 16 side, however that has revealed even more cracks in an already crumbling organisation. We are left to develop the playing programme as we wish. There is no guidance from above, no communication from the seniors, down to 21/18/16 age grades so each year players take months to adjust to the different styles. I find it highly frustrating as you can see by this rant!!
England and Belgium hockey are examples of success - both play the same style and systems from U16 all the way through to senior level so that when players enter the age grade above, they understand the concepts and can then develop these ideas in a more complex manner.
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So how does this situation impact upon the overall sports system in UK? Is there one? More importantly, it seems to have an effect on you as a coach.
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Chris,
it is not all bad. A couple of years ago I was at Largs to witness under 16 hockey teams arive to play a junor international. Scotland were immaculately turned out in Scotland Kit. Their coaches were in charge and overall their behaviour was exemplary. Opposition get off the coach. They have traveled in civies. Girls want to make an impression on Scottish boys. Skirts a bit too short and a bit too much makeup. The reaction of the Scottish girls was a picture. The way the Scottish coaches delt with it was fantastic. I came away with a very favourable impression of Scottish Hockey. I think they won the tournament as well!
I find if we are inside a system we can always see ways of malking it better. Achieving that change is another matter. You need a change agent, you need someone to manage the change, and you need those who are stakeholders to be open to the possibility that change will be for the better. This ties in with Christines other question about sack the manager. Does the need for winning performance encourage inertia or change in organisations? What research is done that the change is for the better? How long do you give the change to embed and become part of the culture of the system? Short termism or long termism?
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Grahame,
it's great to hear that and it has made me look from a different perspective and that specific example is not all that bad.
However, an interesting scenario has crept up today...
The national girls U18 coach (who you may know Christine) is really coming under fire for her refusal to communicate with schools/clubs/parents/coaches and she is implementing different rules to those of other national squads. The example is a scottish schools cup game and she has refused to release players from a training session in order to permit them to play. Disappointingly, this differs from all other national squads and goes against the recommendation from SHU to the national coaches.
So, it could be said she is not working within the system and even worse, has refused to communicate with all stakeholders to explain why. The even bigger problem....some have gone back to Scottish Hockey to query this and ask them to intervene based on their guidelines and the system, but they have refused...
My point here - what's the point in having a system if even the governing body don't implement it?
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I think an understanding of broader and less focused sporting systems are beneficial to the coaching process. I can't say that the SRU sport system has ever impacted me, i wouldn't even know what it is. I always find these kind of questions a bit tricky, because I'm an S&C coach I'm classed as support staff which keeps me at a distance or separate from a lot of the governing body systems and rules.
While this can be a positive in that I don't have to deal with the issues that can arise from these aspects (as mentioned by Chris), S&C has it's own frustrations. A big one for me is that you can end up with a head coach that doesn't value S&C, sees it as a danger to their athletes and only grudgingly allows minimal contact time with the athletes and never engages with you as a coach (this is particularly bad in swimming with old school coaches, there does seem to be a realisation coming in that it is useful and worthwhile.).
So, sorry for the tangent, in short an understanding of the broader principles behind the sport systems would be very beneficial, not essential though, to effective coaching and in my experience it's not hugely relevant in my context. Where it would help is working in larger organisations (SRU, pro team) just so you understand what those around you are working towards and understand their actions in a clearer way.
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Some great discussion points raised here - keep up the good work!
I have attached a link below:
https://t.co/RGdL5TRRB6
I was reading about the situation with the South African system, in this case hockey. I thought this might show Chris that things here are not that bad.
I also have a PhD student looking at the SA system in cricket - we discuss some of the issues in the CoP chapter in my book. Some similarities with hockey, although cricket is not an Olympic sport.
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Like in sport where the French government plays a major role in sport policy making (Hallmann & Petry, 2013, p. 70), dance also follows the same policy with the Ministry of Culture and Communication being the main actor. The state provides funding through different communes where dance is taught in different public conservatoires. There are private schools, however it is the state that overseas the laws of how dance should be taught.
For a teacher to teach in France they need to have passed their teaching diploma and need to know the Schema d’orientation Pedagogique (DMDTS, 2004), this paper sets out the guidelines of what needs to be taught in what levels and the philosophy around the teaching. However, what is written and what is possible has now become two different things. At the beginning when this document was written in 2004 many of conservatoires were obliged to change their curriculums and include dance to keep their particular statue, however, now in these times of budget cuts to culture in France this document has seemed to be forgotten by the directors as they fight to keep their music departments afloat. In some conservatoires dance has either been cut or hours reduced. For example in the first cycle (ages from 8 to 11 year olds) it is suggested that the students study from 3hours and a half to six hours per week, in many conservatoires it is now two hours, and in this needs to be taught music appreciation, classical and contemporary dance. An impossible feat! I fortunately teach in a private school that is attached to a ballet company, and even though this year we are attached to the conservatoire the school has kept its own training curriculum.
When I first started to teach my first work was in a small city conservatoire outside of Paris. After eighteen months I resigned, the obstacles placed in front of me were too difficult to work with, and being a young teacher I did not have the experience to find a solution. Being the director of the dance department I answered to the Conservatoire’s director who then answered to the cultural representative of the city, neither of them knew a thing about dance and viewed the conservatoire as a social centre where all the problems of the young could be mended by culture. I did not mind this philosophy, but what was hard was they interfered with artistic decisions that they had no competence for. Also, there were teachers who had been in their positions over 20 years and had not done any self-development since, they were not ready for change and having a young teacher with over 20 years of professional experience they felt threatened form the beginning. Now looking back if I had more experience I maybe could have handled the situation better, but then I had just stopped dancing and had a different idea of what teaching was, and was not fully aware of the system and how the French conservatoires worked.
Now I have been teaching for eight years and understand it is not just about passing on knowledge, it is working within a system and making it effective. Even though I enjoy teaching what I learnt in those 20 years of professional experience I am slowly starting to understand how being supportive, enthusiastic and having a realistic approach to whom I am teaching is helping me to become a teacher who see’s who is in front of me.
So to answer the question above, yes, it is very important for a teacher to understand the system in which they find themselves. Without it a teacher has no idea where they stand in society they are teaching. The system gives them a base to develop from, which is my case; the Schema d’orientation Pedagogique gives me a base of what I should do.
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I see so many parallels to the English Education System here. A system where 90% of children are expected to be above average!, and year six children are deemed to be underperforming if they do not achieve the expectations that were drafted for the end of year 9. Senior management looking to cut budgets and the arts being pushed out due to lack of funding, and the loss of peripatetic specialist teachers. It will be interesting to see what effect the next round of budget cuts will have on the system tomorrow.
The funding cuts which many NGBs and sporting organisations expect should be out today.
See report which prompted the review:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/33767555
What do you think about organisations such as Street Games gaining funding at the expense of more traditional sports? What are the implications for coaching and coaches?
BBC tells me sport has been given a 29% increase. Not a cut whoopee.
I have no trouble with any sport getting extra funding providing it is not incredibly wealthy and it is a physical activity. I have problems with things like darts, snooker,car/motor bike racing/touring because all though there is skill and competition they are often spectator entertainments rather than participation events. Though your earlier comments on elite sport being part of the entertainment industry come to mind.
I think the darts pro's would disagree with you there, Grahame. I'm not sure we or anyone have the right to decide what level of support sports get based on entertainment value or perceived skill involved. If it were me I would instead look at whether the sport in question is able to financially sustain itself through commercial or sponsorship without tax-payer money. If it can then why provide investment that could have a bigger impact elsewhere?
Taking Handball as an example, a comparatively low level of investment has delivered huge results. This has been shown in our schools competition which saw more than 900 teams enter in 2014-15, compared to 25 in 2009-10. The number of clubs are increasing while more teams are entering our Under-18 and cup competitions.
I for one am looking forward to the launch of the Government’s Strategy for Sport in December and I know that England Handball are working with partners across the sport, such as Street Games, to increase outreach and deliver Handball to even more people.