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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 1

11 January 2016, 3:48 PM

Josh

I started reading the article and felt two emotions: pity and anger. I had to stop to go and do something else while I cleared my head. The story is a bit like a bio of someone on X Factor. How much is marketing hype?

There are all sorts of issues here

Is this a person with parental powers reliving their sporting life through the children?

Safeguarding: This is a child who has been deprived of a childhood if the story is true. When does he have time to be a kid, to learn to socialise with his peer group rather than be idolised by it? The psychologists have expressed concerns - I see parallels with child Film/TV/Pop stars.

Growth and development: the loads being placed on developing bone ends canot be good for later life, the amount of training he does and has done is crazy. There is a history of addiction in his family. No doubt the endorphine high is great at the moment, but what will he turn to if it all goes wrong? Also the story alludes to him being overplayed and taking beatings with little opportunity for repair and recovery increasing his chances of serious injury.

I see similarities to Chinese Gymnasts, pre Berlin Wall East Germany and Soviet Russia.

There is also the "what if he does not make it?" possibility.

In the 70's I taught in a large Secondary School in Birmingham that had a reputation for producing premier football players. Lots of our students were on the books of major football clubs. Our school teams were awesome winning most of the local tournaments. We often provided the ball boys for the FA cup at Wembly, local derby's etc.

The boys and their parents were sold the dream. They left school at 16 went to the club as YTS or apprentices and were finished at 18. These were lads that had played for school, club, county, England Schoolboys etc. Some but very few went on to play in the top flight of the sport.

When I moved to Yorkshire there was a talented Rugby League Player in the school. He too got his England Schoolboys Jersy and was taken on at 16 by a local Top Flight Rugby League Club. The next two years saw a questionable massive change in his height, weight and muscle mass. At eighteen he had a knee injury was dumped by the team and now drives a rubbish skip lorry for a living.

I know professional sport is entertainment and entertainment requires success, but I am not happy ethically that a child can be treated/manipulated this way and I wonder if it is possible internationally to more actively regulate the activities of coaches/clubs/schools/colleges to prevent it? Or does the money in "Big Entertainment" win the arguement?

Daniel Scott Post 2 (summarised) in reply to 1

11 January 2016, 9:41 PM
I don't have the same misgivings. I do think that, if managed badly, this...
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Christine Nash

Christine Nash Post 3 (summarised) in reply to 2

12 January 2016, 9:23 AM
Some interesting and thought provoking points of view - do you think that...
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Daniel Scott Post 4 (summarised) in reply to 3

12 January 2016, 9:33 AM
I think any domain is capable of supporting and driving excellence and an...
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Christopher Duncan Post 7 (summarised) in reply to 4

14 January 2016, 1:15 PM
Dan, is legacy worth a read?! I see it costs £8.99 on iBooks. I'm interested...
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Daniel Scott Post 10 (summarised) in reply to 7

14 January 2016, 11:23 PM
I'd strongly recommend it. Although it's lessons are drawn from a rugby...
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Fran Ortega Post 8 (summarised) in reply to 4

14 January 2016, 7:28 PM
I strongly agree with you Daniel. I am quite influenced by the Martial Arts...
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Britta Wenn Post 5 (summarised) in reply to 3

13 January 2016, 5:39 PM
Having the same emotions like Graham, I cannot understand how family, coach...
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Christopher Duncan Post 6 (summarised) in reply to 1

13 January 2016, 7:36 PM
It reminds me of a film - Friday Night Lights. The star player, puts all his...
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Scott Harrington

Scott Harrington Post 9 (summarised) in reply to 1

14 January 2016, 10:42 PM
To me American Football seems to be one of the only invasion game team sports...
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Christine Nash

Christine Nash Post 11 (summarised) in reply to 9

15 January 2016, 12:10 AM
I'm very interested in the reaction that this article has provoked - mainly...
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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 12 (summarised) in reply to 11

15 January 2016, 11:11 AM Edited by the author on 15 January 2016, 11:13 AM
I have read the other comments but am still not happy based on experience. I...
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Daniel Scott Post 13 (summarised) in reply to 12

15 January 2016, 3:21 PM
In regards to the injury part of your post the fact he is doing as much...
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Christopher Duncan Post 14 (summarised) in reply to 13

15 January 2016, 4:08 PM
On a slightly different topic - I have been watching the twitter of Alex...
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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 15 (summarised) in reply to 14

15 January 2016, 5:06 PM
I agree. Whilst body mass matching is appropriate in martial arts to prevent...
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Daniel Scott Post 18 (summarised) in reply to 14

16 January 2016, 1:20 AM
And those are bad coaches, who need to be better educated or put out to...
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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 16 (summarised) in reply to 13

15 January 2016, 6:23 PM
I take your points on symmetrical weight training vs asymetrical weight...
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Daniel Scott Post 17 (summarised) in reply to 16

16 January 2016, 1:06 AM
The AAP are wrong. These organisations are the ones Avery Faigenbaum has been...
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Daniel Scott Post 19 (summarised) in reply to 16

16 January 2016, 1:34 AM
"How far do you go with a young child who has talent or natural ability?"...
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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 20 (summarised) in reply to 19

17 January 2016, 3:28 PM Edited by the author on 17 January 2016, 3:50 PM
My very last word on this as it is only a two way converstion. I do not know...
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Daniel Scott Post 21 (summarised) in reply to 1

29 March 2016, 9:03 PM
Was wondering if anyone's opinion of this has changed since we started the...
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Christine Nash

Christine Nash Post 22 (summarised) in reply to 21

30 March 2016, 9:36 AM
I think that is an extremely interesting question Dan. Over to you guys!!!
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Grahame Cotterill Post 23 (summarised) in reply to 21

30 March 2016, 8:21 PM Edited by the author on 30 March 2016, 8:23 PM
Dan, I had another timely reminder of this a couple of weekends ago in...
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Daniel Scott Post 24 (summarised) in reply to 23

31 March 2016, 3:40 PM
I agree with you about early specialisation. I still don't have any issue...
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My first ever 'Robin Hood'

Grahame Cotterill Post 25 (summarised) in reply to 24

1 April 2016, 9:25 AM
Yes Dan I get you gist and agree
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